Dickens describes Bull's-Eye as having a face ". You lucky I forgot exactly what I said because I would've said that shyt again. Jack the brindle bulldog was most likely an american bulldog but he could have been an APBT. @Cravendesires - please don't confuse the pit bull or the american stafforshire bull terrier to the ENGLSIH staffordshire..this is SO OLD! @crave desires lies, what happen to my comment, you wouldn't post that shyt. We live in a country where people have the audacity to have non-pit bull type dogs and to walk around in public and elsewhere with these dogs on a leash. She harkens back to Dickens again, before the Staffordshire Bull Terrier even existed as a distinct breed. Are the sources from the internet? The way people 160 years ago saw these dogs is the same as today - they saw them as fighting dogs and many people despised them. Sorry, you just can't misconstrue what "bred" means to those absurd lengths.As far as animal aggression and human aggression being two totally different things, well first I would point out that humans are animals but that is too easy. so far that even animal control officers are brainwashed.the pit bull ATTS scores are an even bigger lie than the nanny dog. But, the myth did not really take off for another 4 years, when Mrs. Rant published her book in 1991. nope. We need to get this out for everybody to see so they too can know the truth.And thank you for sharing that information, April 29. They are terriers and not a mention of 'pit' in the name. I always wondered if this was true or not...I've been on both sides. A lot of pitbull mixes could be bred with dogs who are used for protection work, and therefore develop aggressive behavior towards humans. They are truly lovely, remarkable animals. I could be exaggerating, but I don't think this is unlikely. She likes to cuddle. of course not. Why do you think that people are pissed at your community and pit bulls? This is more than just silly, naive pit nutters repeating fairy tales to one another when it can get into federal court documents. Do some real research, actually spend some time with the dogs. it is always a combination. But this isn't an absolute! While, when playing with other dogs, she prefers wrestling, she changes her play style to fit the other dogs (she runs with a grey hound, wrestles with other pits (and no, they don't bite) and chases balls when there are labs at the park). "Again, animal aggression and human aggression ARE NOT RELATED"You do know that humans are animals right? @ Cory:You sure do love to change the topic don't you? That said, it always helps to have a popular friend. We all know what that means, sweetie. ", thank you iroxursox. "She, thankyouverymuch and I wouldn't leave a child alone with any dog of any size, breed or temperament, period, but my opinion regarding dogs and children doesn't mean people didn't do so in the past (and of course, some idiots still do). "I expect pit bulls to be bred as tame family pets if they're going to be kept as such. While it is too late for many children, hopefully many will be saved in the future. Too often we hold fast to the cliches of our forebears. Cory, they were bred for fighting and that is all. thanks.dogsbite.org is covering this bizarre "accident". Almost ANY breed of dog could be named or be known as a "nanny dog." They're not people... do you really have to scrape that low at the bottom of your barrel to try and prove you're right about something? Craven, I love how the pit bull community shows once more than it cannot comprehend the basic of rules nor the most basic of journals. Proof of Argument: - the term was coined in the 1970's by a staffy breeder. while you are educating all of those american pit nutters, you might want to educate the following obnoxious kennel clubs:the UKChttp://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/Breeds/StaffordshireBullTerrierthe CKChttp://www.continentalkennelclub.com/Ads.aspx?BreedNum=654NKChttp://www.nationalkennelclub.com/Breed-Standards/Staffordshire%20Bull%20Terrier.htmthe NZKChttp://www.nzkc.org.nz/br280.htmlthe AKChttp://www.akc.org/breeds/staffordshire_bull_terrier/index.cfmthe kennel club of the united kingdomhttp://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/services/public/breeds/display.aspx?id=3080, seriously you are speaking out of ignorance. "Cory wouldn't recommend giving a fighting dog to be a child's companion but he thinks its "plausible? Resources to help you help your Blocky dog. My dog is VERY well socialized and shes been introduced to people of all ages, along with many types of animals. Other breed types include terrier, toy, and herding.As for the relation of the ESBT to the ABPT, do you think pit bulls just spawned out of nowhere when immigrants suddenly bought over their ESBT dogs? One of the largest Pit Bull advocacy groups, Bad Rap, recently retracted the “nanny dog” myth and does not recommend Pit Bull types breeds around children. The first myth they address, the Nanny Dog myth, is widely disseminated by pit bull advocates and pro-pit bull groups. The Nanny Dog Myth DogsBite.org - A new blog, " The Truth About Pit Bulls," launched Tuesday with contributors CKing and Craven Desires. People who argued that drunk driving was dangerous and too prevalent and required stronger deterrents felt no need to listen to "the other side. sadly, i don't think he read the blog post either. Well, there it is. It took me all of 10 minutes to find records from a breeder that was breeding specifically for ranch dogs in 1905. Most of "my kind" are responsible pet owners that take care to ensure our dogs don't cause harm to anyone or anything. Yes, we agree that the definition of "animal aggression" and "human aggression" are different. I attempted to post a listing of American children killed by pit bulls since January of 2005. When well cared for and properly trained they can make brilliant companions. None of those kennel clubs recognize "English SBT" "Canadian SBT" or "American SBT" as separate breeds. i agree, responsible owners don't TRAIN their dogs to fight and kill but then again neither do irresponsible owners. "You should probably read the links that respond to this in depth here. Here is the quote straight from your website:"And now, meet KAPPA, the under socialized, mishandled, abused wiggle butt that broke Devon's nose and delivered 64 stitches worth of damage. That’s what we call a confirmation bias. You can read about it herePetey of the Little Rascals was indeed an american pit bull terrier and one from distinguished fighting lines. She is not a mean dog and is very good with kids, i trust her completely. The only problem we have is when we visit my mother's and her dog and my dog play. are athletic and very strong which, when they fall into the category of mistreated dogs, is obviously a deadly combination. you are too closed minded.i didn't publish your second comment because you violated my comment policy - see above. Bad Rap is simply saying supervise your kids around any dog! I mean, they do realize that this term grew from different people referring to their own INDIVIDUAL dogs as nanny dogs, right? If you want to prove a point, you will have to show that the SEVERITY of dog bites has not gone down since the ban has been in place. It wasn't just that the pit was aggressive - it was aggressive in an abnormal way ie. any dog can kill so you might as well ban labs and goldens because as of right now they're higher up on the bite list nation wide than the pit bull. I'm not sorry I have a job and don't have the time to do as much research as you so I figured I would keep it short and sweet. You must be democrats. now modern science tells us that when inbreeding occurs, recessed genes and metal disorders begin to emerge more prevalent. It seems as though you're the one who's confused about what the differences between pit bulls are. You guys see the bad in this breed but dont spit out the good. That is how a great number of human attacks occur. You honestly cannot be this idiotic...If you want to learn more about pit bulls types then please click on this link. :) Later sucka.... You only source yourself? Cull any dog that shows aggression of any sort and outcross with other tamer breeds and tame the most temperamentally sound of those breeds. Thanks, Craven. Know your individual dog, know your individual child. Well guess what? Both sides who promote only this are wrong in my opinion.Once people can come to terms with their breed and stop making them godlike then maybe we can have a happier world of pits and people. clearly you are not able to comprehend the basics. It merely states that the kind of dog he owns, if its a pit, was never called the nanny dog. also you should know that comments do not require approval on blogs that are less than 4 days old on craven desires.in response to your comment, i think you are just being a pain in the ass and sound like a pit nutter with these questions/comments. If you were more like the cane corso and akita clubs then maybe people who hate your kind would show you some respect. Pitbulls are similar to the American Akita in that they were bred to have strong prey drives. WOW, really? That being said:Yes Pitbull breeds were bred to fight. The list FAR exceeded the maximum number of characters allowed in comments. Even the stronger Saint Bernard has had fewer unprovoked mauling and no fatalities to my understanding. Don’t excuse potential recklessness by justifying that reckless with a false sense of security. I'm not the one trying to dispel a so called myth while admitting that my research was limited. There are other breed groups who will loudly warn of their breeds temperament and faults. There are APBTs that can go there whole lifes with out showing any H/A ya know. Other breeds? i am not exactly sure what the nutter means by pit bull holocaust. I have researched too you moron! German Shepherds, hound, and other terrier dogs have strong prey drives, why aren't they killing and maiming more people than the American Pit Bull, Staffordshre, and Ambull? looks like someone took me up on my challenge to find an abundance of evidence that pit bulls were called nanny dogs and failed. They died because somebody with a big ego and a small brain kept a dangerous animal around children. nanny's helper dogs worth their weight in gold ... Posted by Donna at 8:05 AM. We ban people who are dangerous from our society (institutions, jail, etcetera), so we should ban dangerous dogs too. But I digress. Like all the other abused pit bulls. Second, these Bullies are being killed because of people like you. Human children are not the only children we share this planet with. AND you appear to be a pit bull BREEDER!!!! well bullseyeview, you almost followed the argument. You claim you love pit bulls but then participate in the indirect murder of thousands each year. Because they work better. The dog fighters were, however, as persevering a set of men as were the bull baiters, and they set to work to remodel their favorites for their new occupation. You can find their facebook page under "Justice for Harley". - documents of the pit type nature 100 years ago show a savage beast. Not all owners say its the humans fault every time a pit bull attacks. Yes, there is supposed to be a balance, but people with your community will not allow for it. She was a pit bull, and he had kids. What makes them better nanny dogs even is the fact that they have a low maim and mortality rate among kids and people compared to the pit bull. End scene. Rotting in the ground, not posing for cute photographs. Vick Dogs 15 Years Later! Although played by a man in a costume, this dog was intended to be a Newfoundland. @ Douglas Wolfe, CKing, and Craven, out of curiosity did you guys have a bad experience/encounter with a pitbull type dog? If you want to assert that there are many cases of children being killed by other breeds of dogs that are not being reported, then find them. Even her vets.) So… I mean, my God, what is wrong with that? So, they developed another blood sport - pit dog fighting. 120 sites dedicated to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier include this phrase in support of the fighting nanny dog mythology, "These dogs were renowned for their courage and tenacity and despite their ferocity in the pit were excellent companions and good with children. You should read my response to them when it comes through as it surely is grand. From this I can assuredly state that you have NO documents that support your "fact" aside from some images you believe to be the word of god. Who cares where the term "nanny dog" came from, the fact remains that, just like any other breed, "pits" have always been good animals when treated humanely. but let's say i believe this number, are these horses randomly killing innocent people as they ride their bikes, take the trash out and check their mail or are these deaths occurring to people engaging in a dangerous hobby, people who accept the risk of their chosen hobby like mountain climbing or sky diving?no, this is a TRUTHFUL blog. Oh, and that picture you put up of the obviously abused dog is a joke, I can use google picture search, too. Animals are dangerous. while you base your opinion on jane berkey seminars.thank you for allowing ME to educate YOU. BAD RAP admits pit bulls were never nanny dogs. Apparently all you need as proof by your criteria is a bunch of pictures of a certain breed with the child. could 5 cocker spaniels kill a healthy adult man? The problem with the pit bull is dual. The whole purpose of Schutzhund and the models based off of it were made to train GSD and their cousin the Belgian Malinois. I love the breed, while you seek to destroy it. pictures with no provenance or documenting text on it? "I'll be first to say not everyone should own a pit, and that not all of them are stable due to bad breeding or mishandling but why not gain some true knowledge of these breeds and start preaching responsible ownership rather than maligning the entire breed? We're not talking about a wet nurse here, the term was used because they stuck to the kids like glue and provided constant companionship... much like a nanny would. And if you're going to compare pit bulls to intimate objects be more logical in the comparisons you're making. The whole purpose of Schutzhund and the models based off of it were made to train GSD and their cousin the Belgian Malinois. I probably would maul someone too if I was tied up in a filthy backyard and ignored. cory wrote: "Provide proof for you? "My German Shepherd is a great guard dog." He is very loving, cuddly & obedient. Just because you haven’t found it on the internet doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. akitas were highly regarded nanny dogs, but don't leave kids alone with them. after a completely normal and calm greeting with my dog, it suddenly choked off my dog and both I and the pit owner had to beat it to get it to release.Watching a completely calm pit walk past my house, and after I turned away, hearing what sounds like a complete, all-out dogfight turn out to be just two pit bull owners barely able to hold on to their pits encountering each other on the sidewalk.Each spring watching a deluge of new pit bull puppies being paraded around by kids and idiots only to find that most of those pits are gone by the next year (unfortunately not my neighbors pits) which are replaced each spring by new ones that will soon be stuck with the bye bye needle.Hearing what I think is an all out dogfight just to find that my neighbors decided to sit on their front porch with their pits who tried to attack the first thing they saw moving. What about small terriers like Jack Russells? Sweetest dog that would never hurt anyone." His rap sheet is a mile long, and his escapades are well documented. If his first hold doesn't suit, he takes another. No... You can try and excuse that by saying pit bulls have a large prey drive; but so do other hunting dogs and they've still not managed to maim or kill ad many people as pit bulls have.When it comes to canine racism it doesn't exist because the dogs can't comprehend any level of prejudice, discrimination, or "racism" that's been pushed on them. And now you've proven me right. love your anti-commie solution though " let people own what they want and if it injures or kills someone hold the owner responsible". (p.117) In this instance, "many years ago" means about 20 years previous, when she first coined or adopted the term. oh well, classic nutter. The fact that the breed continues to defy the opposition (nutters) should show two things. 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